(Editor's Note: This is the first part of the
interview that was conducted between Ms. Stephanie Bunce who
represented Fate & Fortune Magazine located in the UK. The
interview was done via email. You will have access via an Adobe
Reader PDF file of what the final article looked like in the
magazine but this two part report, gives you the full interview
with all the questions asked and the answers which Joshua
supplied. Also we are adding photos as appropriate to enhance
the interview. We
hope you enjoy the first part of the article as Ms. Bunce asked some
very good questions about the crystal
skulls. Also note, I wrote the answers to this interview before I
began to work closely with Katrina and our crystal kids later in
Below are the
"Original Questions" which Ms. Bunce sent to Joshua via email
1. You heard the call
of the crystal skull in 1983, when you were in the presence of
the Amethyst Skull. What was this strong connection that you
felt? Were you holding the skull or touching it at the time?
2. This experience
was the beginning of your life as a crystal skull explorer and
changed your life forever. How exactly has it changed your life
3. Our readers will want to understand exactly why
crystal skulls mean so much to you. Please tell us?
4. So a crystal skull can be modern (like your Portal de
Luz), it doesn’t have to have been made by an ancient
civilisation? I think our readers would very much like a
definition of what constitutes a crystal skull?
5. What exactly does crystal skull exploring entail?
6. Where have you been on your explorations?
7. You travelled
to Peru in search of the Blue Skull after you had a vision of
it. What other factors define where you go to explore?
8. Are you confident
that you’ll find the Blue Skull some day, at the right time?
9. Apart from the
Portal de Luz, how many other skulls do you have? Can you give
me some details about them? Have you found them on your
explorations and how? Have you found any in ruins (like Anna
Mitchell-Hedges says she found her skull)
10. Regarding the
abilities and powers of skulls, can you tell us about your first
hand experiences of these powers?
11. I understand that
you’ve held the Atlantean Crystal Ball this sounds fascinating.
Tell us something about this, and what the experience meant for
12. Are you a believer in the theory that there are 12
crystal skulls which when brought together will facilitate world
peace or do you hold with a different theory for the Golden Age?
Can you explain to our readers just why the skulls are so
important to achieving world peace?
13. What type of research is currently being carried out
on crystal skulls and why is it so important?
14. What next for you in your explorations and work in
general surrounding crystal skulls?
Question: You heard the call of the
crystal skull in 1983, when you were in the presence of the
Amethyst Skull. What was this strong connection that you felt?
Were you holding the skull or touching it at the time?
a description of the situation and how this contact with the
ancient Amethyst Crystal Skull known as "Ami", came to pass -
the background information
- Crystal Skulls - a crystal skull, as defined by the gentlemen
being interviewed is a human size and shaped skull, made from
various types of quartz crystals. There are three categories of
crystal skulls discussed in the crystal skull community
New or Comtemporary
- made by modern carvers today using predominately diamond tip
tools (saws and drills) - the best carvers are considered to be
in Brazil and China.
Old - a crystal
skull that was created or manufactured over 100 years ago but
less then 1000 to 2000 years ago (this definition varies)
Ancient - a crystal
skull create from 1000-2000 years ago till whenever (thousands
of years, hundreds of thousands of years or more then a million)
- we have no way to verify how long ago a crystal skull was
formed from a purely scientific way.
Ami, is an 8 lb skull (11
lbs is considered human size) made from amethyst quartz crystal
that was uncovered in Mexico or Central America, linked to an
ancient meso-american ruin -- that was once in the care of a
Mayan Priest in Mexico but who gave the skull as a collateral
for a loan of a group of businessmen based out of San Jose,
California, USA - and due to the default of the loan this group
of businessmen has the skull and is trying to sell it for one
million or more dollars.
History related to the interviewee of this article - in April of
1983, Joshua was traveling throughout California on faith - he
was saying with a good friend in San Jose, California when he
went to visit the Ram Metaphysical Bookstore, across the street
from the Rosicrucian Park - little did he know on this day, his
life would forever be changed.
The owner of the Ram Metaphysical Bookstore, Francoise Beaudoin,
had met Joshua before at some local conferences and they were on
very friendly terms. Joshua felt (speaking paranormally and
with regard for an absolute belief in reincarnation) that
Francoise had been his mother in a past life and he treated her
with this distinction and respect. And Francoise, who was also
an Aries like Joshua (Joshua's birthday, April 17th) - which is
why her store was called the Ram, her real son had the same
birthday as Joshua (but he had passed away).
So Joshua on that day in April of 1983, was only going to visit
his friend Francoise in her store and see if perhaps she might
want some additional copy of his first book called, "Journeys of
an Aquarian Age Networker", but little did he know what would
befell him and change his life forever.
Joshua: - It was good to see Francoise again - we always had a
nice time sharing our personal stories - but on this fated day
in April of 1983, I failed to realize that destiny was waiting
for me. After getting out the pleasantries, Francoise showed to
me a picture of a special artifact she had just seen - that was
in this area - it was a photo of
an Amethyst Crystal Skull.
Now up to this point of time - publicly known in the world were
three large crystal skulls:
The Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull
discovered in Belize in 1924, hidden within a pyramid of a Mayan
City called Luubantuun – this crystal skull was two pieces, the
lower jaw separate from the top part - an exact duplicate of our
own human skull – perfect in every detail, clear quartz and
human sized 11.8 lbs.
The British Museum Crystal Skull - a one piece
clear quartz skull found by a Soldier of Fortune in Mexico in
the 1860's (probably robbed by peasants from local meso-american
tombs) - that eventually comes through Tiffany's, a New York
jeweler to the British Museum in 1897 for 120 pounds and is put
on public display in 1898. This crystal skull is on display in
the British Museum in London today and the museum believes it is
a fake, possibly made by advanced carvers in the 1800s. This
crystal skull is slightly larger then human size and has a much
more primitive facial features compared to the Mitchell-Hedges
The Paris Crystal Skull - a clear quartz skull,
small skull less then 6 lbs in height - with a hole cut from the
top part of the skull to its base - it was likewise discovered
by a soldier of fortune in Mexico and eventually was a gift to
the Museum of Man by a Mr. Pinart in 1878. Within the past few
years, this crystal skull has been transferred to the Musee du
Quay Branley, near the Eiffel Tower and sometimes is on public
All three of the relatively known crystal skulls were made from
clear quartz crystal. But this crystal skull, i saw in 1983 was
from amethyst. During this time I had a chance to get to meet
F. R. 'Nick' Nocerino, who is considered to be the foremost
experts about the crystal skulls, having seen his first ancient
skull in 1944 in France. So Mr. Nocerino knew of quite a few
other very old crystal skulls and also had a chance to view this
Question: You heard the call of
the crystal skull in 1983, when you were in the presence of the
Amethyst Skull. What was this strong connection that you felt?
Were you holding the skull or touching it at the time?
Joshua: So I was just minding my business going into
Francoise store, just for a visit and maybe to sell some copies
of my first book when all of a sudden she showed me a picture of
the Amethyst Skull.
As I was gazing at this photo (just the photo mind you) I felt a
tremendous shaking of energy inside of my body. I had never
experienced something like this before -- it was like having an
inner earthquake happened inside of me.
Then I heard in my own thinking voice (but I wasn't thinking
this) the expressions, "what is this doing out now?" - did this
mean on some conscious level - I knew about this crystal skull
before - or could it be a past life memory?
So I was kind of puzzled what was happening to me in this moment
when about 1/2 hour later, there was a real earthquake that
happened about 150 miles south of San Jose and the table which
the picture was sitting on about the amethyst skull started to
So I believe on this day, besides having an inner and outer
earthquake, a jolt to my system -- as it were - I became aware
that there is a special important to the crystal skulls and
essentially I made a decision on this day to dedicated my life
to helping other people to understand and know more about the
crystal skulls - I sensed during these experiences that the
crystal skulls were vital for the future of humanity.
We never know in our life, when we come to a special moment,
when we are going to make a personal decision that will affect
our life for that moment forward. This was one of those moments
But my experience with the amethyst crystal skull did not end
here, just with its photograph as I would have been happy if
this is all that occurred but apparently the universe has
another destiny for me.
About two weeks later, I heard there was a young man in town who
was quite wealthy. He heard about the amethyst crystal skull
and wanted to view it to determine if he might wish to buy the
skull. At this time, the skull was in a vault in an art gallery
in San Jose, and the men who had it wanted to sell it. Since I
knew Francoise, I was invited to come along.
Well I thought to myself, if just the picture can provide a
strong energy and experience, I wound what will happen to me
when I see the darn thing. So I was very excited to go and see
how I would respond to this artifact.
I recall, we were sitting around a large table, and the owner of
the art gallery brought out the skull being held in a kind of
special box. He put the crystal skull on the table for all of
us to view and then eventually we were each allowed to touch it.
I put my right hand on the top of the skull and I felt a force
or energy travel all the way from my hand through my arm and
finally felt an energy stop above my right shoulder - it seems
as if there was a duplicate form or image of the amethyst skull
floating over my right shoulder and even till this day I can
clearly see this image in my mind.
I remember another time shortly after the visit with the
Amethyst Skull, I felt as if it was put over my own bone skull
and when this happened it was like a telepathic bond created
with the skull to receive the knowledge and wisdom that is
stored within into one own head.
Anyway, I was given one photo of the Amethyst Crystal Skull by
Francoise, which I would show others when i did my traveling
journeys on faith at this time. I didn't expect I would be
doing anything else with a crystal skull. I was just grateful to
have the chance to meet one of the ancient skulls and saw that
it possessed a very strong energy field around it which could
help people in very beneficial ways such as for healing,
developing ones spiritual gift or creative gifts, profound
dreams - or be a catalyst for new changes in one life.
I just didn't know this was only the beginning - and the next
step came when I returned in 1985 to California and met the
co-authors of our first book, "Mysteries of the Crystal Skulls
Revealed", that being Sandra Bowen and her teacher, F. R. "Nick"
Nocerinco (deceased 2004).
Question: This experience was the
beginning of your life as a crystal skull explorer and changed
your life forever. How exactly has it changed your life forever
Joshua: First let me explain what the term a "Crystal
Skull Explorer" means to me ...
Why a Crystal Skull Explorer?
- as I started to learn more about the crystal skulls working
with Sandra and Nick, I became more and more convinced the
crystal skulls are tools of the ancient returning to help our
world create planetary peace. This to me was the main and most
important messages that the crystal skulls were giving people.
But up to 1985, I just felt lucky to meet one and thought
nothing else would happen with the skulls again.
But then while I was sharing some information in Berkeley,
Calfornia, in March of 1985,
linked to the Billy Meiers UFO case in Switzerland, a friend in
San Diego had made me
a copy of the UFO film Mr. Meiers took of Pleiadian spacecraft
around his farm, I met
Sandra in the audience who mentioned the crystal skulls in our
public dialogue. So I
called her away from the others and we became life partners for
3 years, working with
Mr. Nocerino to offer public talks and eventually in 1989, our
joint book was released.
But I was seeking some type of title to express the type of work
that I was doing with the crystal skulls. People always want to
give a label of an expert of someone who has given many years of
their life to study a subject. But I believe that every person
is an expert in their own right and that when we depend on a few
people to provide us to the answers of the day, we are giving
away a lot. Being born an Aries, I am a natural born explorer -
I always am fascinated by new activities or studies and I am not
afraid to just give up everything to go on a new quest. Plus
the work of an explorer is to find the best information you can
on the subject or your study and then report back to the
public. It is not your job to provide answers per say, but by
offering the best information you can uncover, allow people to
decide for themselves which part of this information might be
important for them.
From the 1980's till now, in 2009 - our perception about the
crystal skulls continues to change over time. Where once we
thought there might only be a very few human sized ancient
skulls, more and more crystal skulls are appearing each year.
Mexico for example, continued to be a goldmine of crystal skulls
- in March of 2009 I visited Mexico City for the first time and
saw five more of what I would consider to be at least "old"
crystal skulls that had come out of the ground or were linked to
So besides having the opportunity to travel to many parts of the
world, for further explorations or a chance to offer public
talks - each time I have a chance to meet a new crystal skull -
which has a very unique energy linked to it (possibly from the
ceremonies conducted by the people who guarded this skull for
thousands of year or simply all the human events and activities
which the crystal recorded - as this is a service quartz
crystal do - they can record the frequencies of all the energies
around them) - its unique energy changes the person I am.
For example, I remember in March of 2008, I was granted an
opportunity to spend private time (for the 1st time in all these
years) with the Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull of Love (the
skull's name was changed when Bill Homann became the guardian
upon Anna Mitchell-Hedges death). This was in Bill's home. I
had done a special preparation for this experience - I had my
three personal crystal skulls with me (Portal de Luz, 10 lb
smoky quartz; Geronimo Golden Eagle-Eye 2 lb smoky quartz;
Little Indiana Princess - 1 lb rose quartz) and also an MP3
player. I haven't mentioned yet, but I am a musician of sorts.
I have played the guitar since i was about 10 or 12 years old
and I would just spontaneously pay and I would hear songs - I
have written a few songs on the guitar which I do perform during
my public talk from time to time. I have no idea where the
music comes from I hear but I hear it inside of me. I can only
assume I was a musician
in other lifetimes - and I have uncovered two lifetimes linked
to a well known musician and I am sure I was a roving minstrel
Anyway, when I meditate with my personal crystal skulls (at the
time of this interview there are now five, two small amethyst
skulls have come into my possession) or who I call my "crystal
kids" - with music, I have some of the most powerful meditations
I have ever had in my life. I connect to some inner part of my
being that is filled with joy and happiness - which I believe
exists in each of us - if we but could find our own way to
Anyway going back to March of 2008, in Indiana - there was the
Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull in front of me, and it was my turn
to do a meditation. So I placed my large skull, "Portal de Luz"
(Portal of Light) face to face with the Skull of Love and I put
Geronimo and Indiana Princess behind the Skull of Love in a
triangle. And then I went into an altered stated and found the
precise songs on my MP3 player to listen to throughout the
meditation -- I didn't know what would happen to me I just
trusted it would be perfect.
Well many times, when you have a chance to meditate or work with
a crystal skull you feel as if you are in touch with a living
consciousness - a living being that knows who you are and why
you have come for this experience. But in this case, I had a
contact with some type of universal consciousness - it was a
single being, it wasn't a group of being - it was like a pure
consciousness, a consciousness of life. It knew all about me
and I felt very calm and peaceful just sitting there (I was
sitting on the floor in front of a small coffee table where the
Skulls were lying upon.) I could have sat there in this space
for a very long time and not get bored at all - it was amazing
and beautiful. But of course I knew I had to end this
experience, as my friend Indy who came with me that day and Bill
were starting to get hungry. But a side effect of this
encounter, maybe it lasted for 20 minutes (there was no time
present) is the Skull of Love really helped me to activate more
and open my heart chakra. For men, this is no easy feat - my
fellow brothers, were we not taught early in life that it is
weakness for a man to have and experience his heart. But the
Mitchell-Hedges Skull was showing me that we can never truly
love and enjoy life if our hearts are closed as we prevent
ourselves from being who we truly are. And in truth, all of
creation is an act by Creator (He/She) which allows creation to
occur - it is through God's love.
So to summarize, the more contact I have with these crystalline
friends, it seems they are helping me to discover who I really
am inside - my full potential and helping me to link more fully
with creator inside, the divine infinity.
Thus you can imagine why I am so enthusiastic and excited to
work hard on every project I can imagine and think of, to
include these beautiful crystal friends as they awaken more and
more people they touch through personal contact with them.
Question: Our readers will want to understand exactly why
crystal skulls mean so much to you. Please tell us?
Joshua: Why do the crystal skulls mean so much to me?
They are the ancient computers, which have stored special and
important wisdom and
knowledge that we can access to help us create a peaceful world
-- They are perfect mirrors - that when you sit across from one
(a crystal skull that has been awakened and activated whether it
is a newly made crystal skull by modern carvers or a very
ancient one made by advanced civilizations in the far past) --
they will reflect back to you the true essence who you are -
what creative or spiritual gifts and skills you have - the
perfect person you are inside, a divine child of god
They are your friends - seeking ways to help you with challenges
in life – perhaps by meditation with a crystal skull, an answer
can come up for a difficult problem in your life or they can
help you see what lies ahead for you in the future.
The crystal skulls have helped to create a special energy
field for me while I am writing a new book or composing a
new song that makes it easier to write the book or the song.
The crystal skulls (“kids”) are my partners for the
private sessions that we offer (I have done more then a 1000 of
these since 1999) where the “kids” offer special energies to our
clients or may share telepathic insights and information with
them while I working on
the intuitive reading - sometimes I do receive some messages
from the “kids” for the clients to offer positive advice or a
suggestion of some life new activities or exercises that can
bring more peace in the client’s life. – (Note: A private
session is where I am able to sit with a client in a closed room
at a table with the “crystal kids” are lying upon and facing the
client – the client selects intuitively one of the “kids” to
hold during their session in their lap, we begin with a
meditation with music, then I share some messages I hear or what
energy I feel in the clients body and chakra and answer
Truly they are my kids - I have to take care of them and make
sure they are able to be with the people they wish to meet --
and the kids go with me everywhere when we take our exciting
adventures around the world.
to Stephanie: - the question below was bypassed but I think
it should be answered here as I have already given the
definition above of what a crystal skull is)
Question: So a crystal skull can be modern (like your
Portal de Luz), it doesn’t have to have been made by an ancient
All crystal skulls,
whether they are made by modern carver like “Portal de Luz”, or
if they were an ancient skull created in some way we do not
fully understand by a civilization that existed far ago, all
quartz crystal skulls are made from the same material, quartz
crystal. And for quartz crystal to come into existence, takes
hundreds of thousands of years of the right temperature and
pressure and conditions in the ground for this to happen.
Every crystal skull has
its own unique purpose and service that it performs to help the
people it has contact with. So while the more ancient crystal
skulls may have what appears to be more intense or stronger
energies, these crystal skulls may not be appropriate for
everyone to see and have contact with, as their frequency of
energy could be too high or overload some people. This is why,
the newly made crystal skull are also important as they can help
many people become accustomed to be around the energy linked to
the crystal skulls as a whole group. Plus as far as we know
maybe at most, in this moment, we only know about 15-20 crystal
skulls that could be ancient and not all of these skulls are
with individuals who feel inspired to travel the world and allow
people to have direct contact with them. So all crystal skulls
have a role to play and the newly made skulls are as special a
tool for personal growth and awakening of one’s inner awareness
as the much older skulls. We can not fully comprehend the
magnitude of what the crystal skulls are truly about without
studying all the three different types.
Question: What exactly does crystal skull exploring
entail or what does a Crystal Skull Explorer do?
Joshua: I think the
best way to define what being a crystal skull explorer is about
is to discuss the type of days I have, when I am doing this very
important personal work for the planet with these crystal
The day of a crystal skull explorer - every day there are always
emails to answers -- either a person wants to know how to buy a
crystal skull or if they are a crystal skull guardian,
suggestions how to bring their crystal skull to life. So people
will write to us to ask where they can see a crystal skull in
person or they might decide to invite us to their local area to
do a weekend event.
Sometime we hear from people who have old skulls - who are
unsure what they have and they will send us picture - if it is
possible to visit these individuals to see the skulls, we try to
arrange this as well.
We also are working on creating public event - to try to bring
many crystal skulls together. I worked to offer an
International Festival in Holland and Hungary which of course we
had many friends support this or it just was not possible to do
(Holland 2006, Hungary 2007).
We are working on a new documentary - one done by the
supervision of people who are real life crystal skull teacher,
researchers and guardians. I did participate in two
documentaries as a consultant but I was a bit disappointed by
the important information that was left out that would have
really helped to give the people a most wonderful understanding
of these crystal friends
We also have our World Mystery Research Center, to perform
scientific and paranormal
research on a number of different world mysteries including the
crystal skulls, UFOs,
prophecy, crop circles and the bible code. We believe that
inherit within these mysteries is key knowledge that will one
day help humanity move into a Golden Age - who knows perhaps by
the end of 2012. (Editor's Note - We had to
release the World Mystery Research Center in 2012 due to lack of
support and resources ... )
And of course we continue to setup many public events (lectures
- workshops - media appearances - private crystal skull
sessions) to help educate the public and also provide their own
direct contact with a crystal skull there is no single day that
goes by that there isn't some type of activity linked to the
crystal skulls going on
Question: Where have you been on your explorations?
Joshua: In order to do any exploration of some
mystery in life, the way you would really like to, it requires
financial resources and although I am very proud of all the
places I have been able to travel without a large amount of such
finances - it means that the research we have been able to
conduct has been limited to a few days and that we are unable to
stay the time needed to do a thorough job of research for each
But here is some of the interesting journeys I have taken:
Peru - looking for a blue
skull high up in the Andes mountains of Northern Peru
(1997, 1999, 2002)
Mexico - in March of this
year, had a chance to see five old crystal skulls that have been
unearthed from the ground that have not been shown publicly very
England - Research of the
effect of a crystal skull on the energies within a Crop Circle
US & Europe - testing a
number of individuals using various electronic devices to
measure the energetic effect of a crystal skull upon a person
(2000-2008) - such devices as a Meridian Stress Test System,
Krilian Camera, Lechers Antenna, Brain Waves ...
Secret Codes held within the Crystal
Skulls - Reverse Image technology that shows hidden
images and pictures that are stored within a photograph of a
crystal skull - information stored in the controversial Bible
Code that discusses Crystal Skulls
These are just a few examples of the most interesting journeys
we have taken or the
research tests we have conducted to better understand how the
crystal skulls function and why they have a special affect upon
In other words, if there is some new activity or artifact (a
crystal skull for example) that surfaces which is highly
interesting or we are able to conduct some type of new
scientific experiments to understand these activities or
artifacts, if there is a way we can go and do such explorations
(and we will attempt every possible method to make this happen)
then we are out the door!!
Question: You travelled to Peru in
search of the Blue Skull after you had a vision of it. What
other factors define where you go to explore?
Joshua: When it is
time to make a journey to search for or meet a new crystal
skull, the way this happens is very simple. The possibility to
do so, just happens - all the doors needed to make this trip
open and then we are able to go.
For example, a member of our Crystal Skull Explorers’ newsletter
contacted me by email that Dr. Brown’s Atlantean Crystal Ball
(now being called an Atlantean Orb) would be on display the 2nd
weekend of April this year at a center in Key West, Florida. We
had about maybe a week to prepare for this trip but we decided
it was too important and to close to Atlanta to not to go.
For those readers who are not familiar with Dr. Brown's Crystal
Ball, briefly he was a member of Jacque Cousteau diving team and
in 1968 on the way back from a dive off South America, a
terrible storm stranded them near Bimini. Well after a storm
passes, it sometimes makes it easier to view the seabed so Dr.
Brown decided to take a look underwater and he came upon a
brilliantly white lighted pyramid. He entered the pyramid and
came to a council chamber where sitting on a table held by gold
hands was a crystal ball. A voice told him to take the ball and
never come back. Dr. Brown felt this was an Atlantean Pyramid
and this ball had strong energy and power.
Anyway, so this chance came up to view and meet the ball so I
traveled to Key West with a friend. It was a long drive from
Atlanta to Key West but we made it. I thought I would only be
able to see the ball, but the current guardian, who's name is
Arthur, for some reason allowed me to hold the ball for 5-10
minutes. Having worked with crystal skulls before, it was
interesting for me to see how the energy of the ball worked with
a person. I noticed the ball’s energy was very different from
any crystal skull that I have had a chance to hold or work with.
The ball felt as if it was programmed by a higher intelligence
which knew immediately what to do with the individual based on
that person's vibrational frequency or their personal energy
field. I still feel the essence of the ball sitting in my right
hand, the palm of my hand and I was able to put all my crystal
skulls in the water, that held the ball during a group session
(they were not allowed to be out so that the energies didn't
interfer with each other) - so they also in a way received some
energies from the ball or the orb.
So as you can see, things just come up for me - I get a strong
pull to do something and somehow, don't ask me how, I find a way
to make the trip or journey happen.
Related to the Blue Crystal Skull that I have been searching for
in Peru, here is my story what happened to me when I went to
Peru the first time to see if such a crystal skull really
In 1997, I was working for a mobile phone company. In 1990, I
went to Peru with my second ex-wife, Vera Lopez, and during a
breakfast we had in a hotel in Lima, I have had a vision of a
sky blue transparent crystal skull similar to the
Mitchell-Hedges Skull with two pieces including a movable lower
jaw. So for seven years, I would see in my mind’s eye an image
of this Blue Crystal Skull. Well the intensity around this blue
skull got so strong in 1997, that I couldn't stand it anymore. I
had to go back to Peru to look for it and try to find it. How
many people do you know would quit a good paying job (so they
can stay however long is needed in Peru) and go on a trek
without knowing exactly what you are doing or where you are
going? And that all you could rely upon is your intuition?
Well this exactly how the first trip to Peru happened. And even,
as I was traveling around various parts of the country,
especially in certain areas that tourist do not travel that
often - I wasn't sure if I would find the locations or places I
was meant to go. There was no question that there was an
invisible force watching over me and guiding me during this
But eventually, traveling
with a local guide, I arrived at a
sacred lagoon high up in the
Andes Mountains, not far from the border with Ecuador and I had
two spiritual visions of the blue skull when I was there -- but
even till this date, 12 years later after that historic trip,
there has not been a physical sighting of this blue skull yet.
But I did have a vision of this crystal skull twice and I
received from some invisible and telepathic source information
about the history of this crystal skull while I was in mountain.
The complete story of this trip is shared in our new book,
"Journeys of the Crystal Skull Explorers" which hopefully near
the time of the release of this article, a printed version of
this book will be available in English. Thus far, our book has
come out in Dutch, Hungarian and Polish so far and we are
hopeful to get a Czech and Spanish publisher too.
So life dictates where the next trips will be - and then somehow
we figure out how to deal with the finances or someone just
helps us out. This is the only way to answer your question. But
a good crystal skull explorer must be ready for a new adventure
at any time and at any moment!!
Question: Are you confident that
you’ll find the Blue Skull some day, at the right time?
Yes I am very confident that this crystal skull will appear one
day - I still see it in my mind's eye floating in front of me
off to my left side – above the level of my head.
Of course, many people do not believe something is real unless
they are able to physically touch it and see it with their own
eyes. But I believe the Blue Skull definitely is real – I have
regular telepathic communication with it all the time. And I
sense that the blue skull exists for now in a different
vibrational plane (i.e. – not in the third dimensional
existence or physical level we know) and this is why a
person can only be aware of its presence if you use your own
spiritual or inner gifts. I believe that there are other
crystal skulls like this Blue Skull and each is a living being
onto themselves - they are not just a piece of stone that has
been exclusively carved or shaped into a human bone skull. The
Blue Skull has communicated to a few other people I have met
over time, sometimes through some of the existing ancient
crystal skulls that I have traveled with or the conscious of
this skull spoke to the people telepathically and directly as
Question: Apart from the Portal de Luz, how many other
skulls do you have? Can you give me some details about them?
Have you found them on your explorations and how? Have you found
any in ruins (like Anna Mitchell-Hedges says she found her
All of the crystal skulls I currently have are modern made. Four
I received as gifts from dear friends and one I traded some
copies of my first crystal skull book to basically pay for
“her”. They are all modern created crystal skulls but don't let
this fool you. Every crystal skull, whether new, old or ancient
is made from the same material quartz crystal. It has taken
perhaps hundred of thousands or millions of years for quartz to
grow in the ground. Yes that is correct, quartz grows which is
a definition of life.
Here is a better summary of the five “crystal kids” that I
have at this time:
"Portal de Luz" - made in
1998, by a master Brazilian carver, the smoky quartz, also was
mined near where the carver lived. This crystal skull came to
Joe and Marylee Swanson from a contact of the carver in Brazil,
they live in Colorado and at a special crystal conference in
Sedona, Arizona, in April of 1999, run by Dr. Chet Snow, which
featured a variety of speakers about crystal skulls, including
myself, this is where I met Portal de Luz. Joe and Marylee had
him, Vera Lopez, my second wife at the time, decided to buy him
for me as a gift. Portal is a jack of all trades kind of skull
- he has been on national tv several times (he is pretty
photogenic) - he has set in all the private sessions we have
done for people since 1999, he seems to be involved in gathering
higher knowledge and wisdom - he likes music and dances with
Joshua during his talks and he helps people to find their focus
Geronimo Golden Eagle-Eye
is the Native American skull in this group. I never knew
why I had to call him Geronimo but this is what I felt the first
week after he had been gifted Geronimo to me by a friend who
helped me with the skull's full name. An Eagle is my spirit
animal which represents the freedom of flight which suits me
very well. However, when I visited a Native American Indian
Chief from the tribe called the Ahniyvwiya (people know them as
the Cherokee but this is their true name in their native
language, it means The People) and Geronimo slept with their
chief, Grandfather Paul, his energy and physical appearance
totally changed – he became initiated into the energy of this
tribe and Geronimo also saids he has a connection with the Star
Ancestors of the tribe.
Heavenly Mother (Pacha Mama)
is a true loving skull made from rose quartz that was also a
gift from the same friend as Geronimo who helped to activate and
awakened this little crystal friend which seems to beam a pink
ray light of love for the heart chakra. This skull took on its
current name (was re-named) while we (Katrina and Joshua) to
Salt Lake City in 2011 for a special conference (which helped
us to receive our human sized rose quartz skull with a movable
jaw Rosalita) that Joshua spoke at which was co-sponsored by
a wonderful woman who is a spiritual healer and shaman from
The King - The One Who Points the Way
- is a 1 lb amethyst star being skull who looks a bit like a
Gray alien -- this type of skull is being carved by a special
carver in China who they will not reveal his identity. This
crystal skull was activated while meditating with him in my left
hand while I was visiting a friend in Los Angeles - there were
several purple rays of light that came down from the air and
surrounded the skull and my arm. He is about helping to show a
person the direction they must take in their life but seems to
have an ET or Galactic position that he comes from.
Purple Starbright or Zippy One-Eye
- is a two lb amethyst skull – ‘she’ came from a
friend who sells crystal skulls in his store in Chicago. The
carver is unknown as well as where the amethyst comes from but
this was the first amethyst skull to join the kids - she has a
more feminine presence. Purple Starbright was the name given by
Blue Arrow Rainbow Eagle Woman and Zippy One-Eye came to Joshua
- One-Eye was given because it seemed that one eye on the skull
is open and the other eye is closed and Zippy was requested by
the skull to complete her name.
I do not have any ancient crystal skulls - I believe that a
person can have just as amazing and fantastic experiences and
adventures with the new skulls as well as the older ones. As a
matter of fact even is someone would offer to trade me an
ancient skull for any or all of my kids, I would have to say
no. We have created a very special bond amongst ourselves, our
energy flows together very wonderfully indeed and there are no
other skulls on the world I feel that could create such a
feeling or relationship as we have. So I guess one just has to
be open which crystal skull or skulls comes into your life – you
just never know.
It has not been my luck as of yet to find some unexplored
ancient ruins - again to do such a trip really requires the
proper resources but upon visiting known sites - there has been
information received or contact made with other intelligences
that are not on the physical that has offered insides into man's
past and his origins.
My role seems more to collect and gather all kinds of
information related to understanding the crystal skulls rather
then be a person who is discovering new skulls - the only one
that I ever actively searched for was the Blue Skull in Peru but
I believe this was due to the fact I have known this skull in
other lifetimes and that since it is a living being onto itself,
it was calling to me.
(Editor's note - the next and final part of this interview
will be continued in Part II, which in a few days we will send
an email to let you know how you can read it - thank you!!)